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i thought important the part about foreign policy. we've had situations in the past where we had wars with countries and then ended up being their friends. why don't we start being friends. to me, it was all about iran. there is only other country we're thinking about going to war, with it's iran. why fighting the people of iran? why kill a bunch of people iran because we don't like their nuclear program? he wants to avoid that. robin wright says if we don't take advantage of the weapon between now and when they weaponize, we will never have peace with iran it will be endless war with that enormously important country which could shake every part of our world. >> the favorite line? >> the courage to resolve differences with other nations peacefully, not because we are naive about the dangers we face, because engagement can more endurably lift fear. peace has durability. if you go to war, you go to war again. iraq one leads to iraq two. you keep going back and back and back. get caught in the quick sand. and he says i'm not going too d
i thought important the part about foreign policy. we've had situations in the past where we had wars with countries and then ended up being their friends. why don't we start being friends. to me, it was all about iran. there is only other country we're thinking about going to war, with it's iran. why fighting the people of iran? why kill a bunch of people iran because we don't like their nuclear program? he wants to avoid that. robin wright says if we don't take advantage of the weapon between...
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bush's foreign policy and his father's foreign policy. rana noted the whole policy to iran is premised on building broad alliances, in not being unilateral. well, that approach was the first president bush's foreign policy, and, in many ways, barack obama is the heir to the first president bush's foreign policy. and i think chuck hagel is close to that which is why he's gotten support from some of the first president bush's closest foreign policy advisers. >> i completely agree. that's just the right way to frame it. there's a lot of overlap between the first president bush and hagel. he's a pragmatist but he's tough. he's not on one end of the spectrum. he's willing to talk. and you have to talk. it's a big world out there and the u.s. is not the only power anymore. >> let's talk about some of the other possible nash points here in that written questionnaire he said he is supportive of women in the military. james inhofe is not. >> yeah, well, that's one of those questions he's going to have to answer a. i know there's been issues in the
bush's foreign policy and his father's foreign policy. rana noted the whole policy to iran is premised on building broad alliances, in not being unilateral. well, that approach was the first president bush's foreign policy, and, in many ways, barack obama is the heir to the first president bush's foreign policy. and i think chuck hagel is close to that which is why he's gotten support from some of the first president bush's closest foreign policy advisers. >> i completely agree. that's...
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as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam was about not just the surge but the overall war of choice going into iraq. that particular decision that was made on the surge, but more to the point our war in iraq, i think was the most fundamentally bad, dangerous decision since vietnam. aside from the costs that o occurred in this country to blood and treasure, aside what that did to take our focus off of afghanistan, which, in fact, was the original and real focus of the national threat to this country, iraq was not, i always try to frame all the different issues before i made a decision on anything. now just as you said, senator, we can have differences of opinion, but that's essentially why i took the position i did. >> it's a fundamental difference of opinion, senator hagel, and senator graham and i and senator lieberman when there were 59 votes in the united states senate spent our time trying to prevent that 60th. thank god for senator lieberman. i think history has already made a judgment about the surge, sir, and you're on the wrong si
as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam was about not just the surge but the overall war of choice going into iraq. that particular decision that was made on the surge, but more to the point our war in iraq, i think was the most fundamentally bad, dangerous decision since vietnam. aside from the costs that o occurred in this country to blood and treasure, aside what that did to take our focus off of afghanistan, which, in fact, was the original...
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and the difficulties in articulating a broad set of foreign policy goals. that is infinitely compounded given the state of play and also changing leadership in the middle east. give us the latest from egypt where things are certainly in a state of turmoil. what's your read on how this affects president morsi's grip on power. >> you know, when the news came out, it is importantly linked to the united states because the defense secretary here, or the minister of defense, the head of the armed forces, came out with this statement saying that the country was on the verge of collapse. the state was on the verge of collapse if the country cooperate reconcile its political differences. now, why we say that's important is because the egyptian military receives close to $1.5 billion from the u.s. government. and hadz a close working relationship with the u.s. military. you get a sense of how important this state institution is to the overall affects here on the ground in egypt, and the kind of community that the u.s. has. it is a back door channel and an important o
and the difficulties in articulating a broad set of foreign policy goals. that is infinitely compounded given the state of play and also changing leadership in the middle east. give us the latest from egypt where things are certainly in a state of turmoil. what's your read on how this affects president morsi's grip on power. >> you know, when the news came out, it is importantly linked to the united states because the defense secretary here, or the minister of defense, the head of the...
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were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam. were you correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> when given a chance to respond, here is what hagel said. >> the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam was about not just the surge, but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> that point found broad support in our latest nbc news/"wall street journal" poll with nearly 6 in 10 americans saying the entire iraq war was not worth it. let's remember that the mccain/hagel grudge goes way back to comments, well, like these. >> well, i think our invasion and occupation of iraq represents one of the great blunters of american history, and we will pay a high price for this for a long time. >> now, that would be in march 2008. you remember, it's the year that barack obama won his first term as president defeating none other than john mccain. do you think mccain is still angry that hagel backed obama? holding a judge? no, never. if mccain played the betrayed besty, fel
were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam. were you correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> when given a chance to respond, here is what hagel said. >> the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam was about not just the surge, but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> that point found broad support in our latest nbc news/"wall street...
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the two discussed their past rivalry, their current working relationship and american foreign policy. it was a public sign of solidarity between the two former rivals. yet that proved to be too much for the folks over at fox news. the "fox & friends" trio complained about the lack of real news, and attacked crawford for not digging deeper into clinton's health issues. >> the interview was awkward. they were giddy saying goodbye. and right at the top, steve kroft said they only gave us 30 minutes, which of course means there is not going to be any real news. and there wasn't. >> but if you give somebody 30 minutes, you could get real into it, especially steve kroft, who is usually awesome. but i think for some reason they didn't dig into anything at all. >> 30 minutes? come on. >> i would like to know, did she pass out and hit her head? was she pushed? how did she hit her head and get a concussion? >> and the whining didn't stop there. the network that served as the bush administration's head cheerleader is now taking issue with the questions asked of president obama and secretary clin
the two discussed their past rivalry, their current working relationship and american foreign policy. it was a public sign of solidarity between the two former rivals. yet that proved to be too much for the folks over at fox news. the "fox & friends" trio complained about the lack of real news, and attacked crawford for not digging deeper into clinton's health issues. >> the interview was awkward. they were giddy saying goodbye. and right at the top, steve kroft said they...
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were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be "the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam"? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> my reference to the surge -- >> are you answering the question, senator hagel? the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straightforward question. >> well -- >> i would like the answer whether you were right or wrong, and then you are free to elaborate. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no answer on a lot of things. >> well, let the record show you refused to answer that question. now please go ahead. >> well, if you would like me to explain why -- >> i actually would like an answer. yes or no? >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no. i think it's far more complicated than that. >> senator mccain and a lot of republican washington is banking on the lesson learned from the iraq war, being that we should have started that war, we should have escalated that war, we should have kept that war going, and now ten years on our only regret about the iraq war should be that we're
were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be "the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam"? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> my reference to the surge -- >> are you answering the question, senator hagel? the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straightforward question. >> well -- >> i would like the answer whether you were right or wrong, and then you are free to elaborate. >>...
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this was the biggest foreign policy disaster since vietnam, where they both served. it's very personal. >> david, your thoughts. >> john mccain wants to start the conversation of iraq at the surge and not before that. and hell has no fury like mccain's scorn. it was very personal. it was very bitter. and he really was kind of a bully. he got back to his old crotchety man routine after having a few days in the bright sun on immigration reform. but i agree with howard. i think that chuck hagel did not fend very well those attacks. and they're going to have to come out really clearly in the next day or two to make up for that. >> all right. david corn, howard fineman, richard wolffe, great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much for your time. >> thank you. >> coming up, if you've w0rkd in the food service industry before, you've probably been stiffed on a tip one time or another. but you won't believe the excuse one customer got caught using. we'll show you that next. it's amazing. >>> like the ed show when you're there. we appreciate that. still to come, nfl playe
this was the biggest foreign policy disaster since vietnam, where they both served. it's very personal. >> david, your thoughts. >> john mccain wants to start the conversation of iraq at the surge and not before that. and hell has no fury like mccain's scorn. it was very personal. it was very bitter. and he really was kind of a bully. he got back to his old crotchety man routine after having a few days in the bright sun on immigration reform. but i agree with howard. i think that...
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as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam was about not just the surge but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> i think history has already made a judgment about the surge, sir, and you're on the wrong side of it. >> senator shaheen, i don't know what to make of that. it looked like badgering the witness. i mean, it was mccain with some vendetta against this guy. it looked personal. and i don't know what it had to do with his qualifications, his abilities, to simply pound away trying to get him to agree on john mccain on something mccain believes in. >> well, this was the longest hearing for a nominee that i have ever attended in my years here. i think -- i thought senator hagel answered as forthrightly as he could all the tough questions that were in front of him. i would hope we could all be respectful and be willing to give the witness an opportunity to answer when there are serious questions. i was pleased to hear senator hagel. i didn't ask him about the surge in iraq. i wasn't there for that interchange, but i was pleased to
as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam was about not just the surge but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> i think history has already made a judgment about the surge, sir, and you're on the wrong side of it. >> senator shaheen, i don't know what to make of that. it looked like badgering the witness. i mean, it was mccain with some vendetta against this guy. it looked personal. and i don't know what it had to do with his...
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last friday's article described hagel as a "deeply embedded with a network of pro-iran foreign policy groups that have lobbied to lift economic sanctions and boost u.s. engagement with tehran." texas republican senator john cornyn offered a similar line of attack when he criticized the nomination on mon. >> i cannot support a nominee for defense secretary who thinks we should be tougher on israel and more lenient on iran. >> the group americans for a strong defense, didn't exist till this month. when it was set up apparently for the sole purpose of opposing chuck hagel. led by former rnc communications director danny diaz and romney visor brian hook the group is running is ads is urging democratic senators to vote no. >> barack obama's nominee for secretary of defense wants america to back down. an end to our nuclear program. devastating defense cuts, a weaker country. >> another group, american future fund has ads questioning hagel's ethics calling on the senate to post phone the hear. finally a group that purports to be coming from the left supported by members of the gay and lesbia
last friday's article described hagel as a "deeply embedded with a network of pro-iran foreign policy groups that have lobbied to lift economic sanctions and boost u.s. engagement with tehran." texas republican senator john cornyn offered a similar line of attack when he criticized the nomination on mon. >> i cannot support a nominee for defense secretary who thinks we should be tougher on israel and more lenient on iran. >> the group americans for a strong defense, didn't...
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committee sends its republican members to world net daily to go talk about foreign policy ideas, this is their world. this is not the fringe. this is where they live. governing the united states is a really hard job. representing the united states in the world is a really, really hard job. today john kerry was officially sworn in to take over that job from hillary clinton. and he got to what amounts from a really well informed warning from his predecessor about the difficulties of that job. the evidence-based world is a hard enough place to live and to operate for us as a nation without half of our domestic politics being dominated by the perceived desire to defend against the muslim obama jihad on ronald reagan's childhood home. are we hampered as a nation in our ability to address real problems in the evidence-based world if half of the people in politics do not live in that world? and if so, how does that get fixed? joining us now is chris hayes, who all of you will see again at 8:00 a.m. eastern tomorrow, because that's when he starts his show "up with chris hayes" here on msnbc.
committee sends its republican members to world net daily to go talk about foreign policy ideas, this is their world. this is not the fringe. this is where they live. governing the united states is a really hard job. representing the united states in the world is a really, really hard job. today john kerry was officially sworn in to take over that job from hillary clinton. and he got to what amounts from a really well informed warning from his predecessor about the difficulties of that job. the...
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policy and didn't hang out and support his friend and republican colleague john mccain. was there something personal there? >> there is always something personal in relationships between senators and chuck hagel is a former senator. i can't speculate on motives of each of the senators. they are probably different motives, an array of intent and purpose. i think there will be a vote this week in the committee, if not this week, next week, but soon. i believe there will be republican votes for senator hagel and if not in committee, at least on the floor. i believe he will be approved. i think the personal issues, hopefully, will be put behind us. most importantly, it will be a bipartisan vote. whatever the motives on a personal level, i hope partisanship is not part of this process as the american people watching that hearing may have concluded it was because the weight of the republican questioning, the prosecuting or crass examination aspect was so much on the republican side. >> do you agree with the old tradition that president's should be able to pick their own cabine
policy and didn't hang out and support his friend and republican colleague john mccain. was there something personal there? >> there is always something personal in relationships between senators and chuck hagel is a former senator. i can't speculate on motives of each of the senators. they are probably different motives, an array of intent and purpose. i think there will be a vote this week in the committee, if not this week, next week, but soon. i believe there will be republican votes...